The intention of this thread is to pull together information on using kratom as an admixture with various other herbs and substances. It is generally well known that combining kratom with stimulating herbs will bring out the stimulating properties of the kratom, just as combining with sedative herbs will bring out the calming, dopey properties of the kratom. Why mix kratom at all, one might ask? Some find the effects of kratom on their own to be pleasant but pretty subtle. If one pushes the dose too high, dizzyness and nausea are all the thanks you get for your troubles. Adding other herbs can increase or boost desired effects, without increasing the body load.
To push the experience in the direction of sedative/opiate-like, one has had good results using a combination of lotus (Nymphaea or Nelumbo species), chamomile & lavender blossoms. One has not tried other herbs such as kava, valerian, hops, or passionflower, but they may be worthy of investigation. Poppies (duh!) could also be used, though I question why one would mix these two.
To push the experience in the direction of stimulation/sociables, one has had good results using various caffeine sources: tea, yerba mate, coffee, guarana, or cacao nibs/cocoa. There seems a special synergy between kratom and caffeine. The stimulating properties, the urge to converse freely, and one's ability to do sustained physical activity are all heightened. Hours after the initial kratom dose, having a cup of tea or mate will pack a punch, as if the normal effects of the caffeine are more pronounced. One finds this combination passingly similar to cocaine or even a small dose of MDMA, without having the after effects of either.
One has also combined kratom with coca leaf, which seems a little less stimulating but more trance-like. One often desires to just sit and meditate, nice clarity of awareness. Using a combination of kratom and coca is also amazing medicine, when one has a cold. Decongestant, relieves cough, and takes all the aches and pains from one's body.
What is kratom with psychedelics like? One finds it goes well with mushrooms or LSD, to heighten sensations of euphoria. The danger is using too much kratom, and becoming sick and dizzy. NOT FUN while tripping! One should keep the dose low... Sometimes one finds the kratom takes away from the clarity and one feels a less "clean" vibration.
People always ask, what would KRATOM be like with SYRIAN RUE or CAAPI??? Caution is called for, as this is unexplored territory. The kratom has stimulating, sedative and opiate properties which may be dangerous in combination with the harmala alkaloids. One would expect the effects of the kratom to be increased, so a lower dose might be in order. Mitragynine and other kratom alkaloids are somewhat similar to harmala alks in structure, who knows how they might interact?
Once SWIM made some tea of mushrooms and kratom. As the mushrooms were coming up to the peak, one consumed a capsule of caapi extract and a couple tabs of LSD. Only then did SWIM remember there was kratom in the tea! Oops :embarassed: The trip was great, amazing euphoria and no ill effects were noted. Hard to tell what influence the kratom might have had though, and this in no way means that the combination is a safe one! If one approached this, one would want to start small and work one's way up.
Alcohol in combination with kratom is to be avoided, according to SWIM. One beer or a glass of wine is usually okay, but any more alcohol and the combination is much much more likely to lead to dizzyness, nausea and vomitting than either substance on its own. Caution recommended.
One has heard that KANNA in combination with KRATOM is also to be avoided, as it can have strange and unpleasant consequences.
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So now it is your turn to share, everyone! Tell me stories of what people have combined kratom with, what worked, what was pleasant, and what was to be avoided?
